So I found Nellie Taylor b. 1880 in Liverpool. She married James Gordon Garrick and they had a daughter Marjorie Howard Garrick in 1910. In 1911 her sister Esther was living with them. She worked in a Confectioneri's shop.
James Gordon Garrick died 1914. Probate administration for the estate (valued at over £7000) went to his widow, Nellie Howard Garrick.
Nellie died in 1942. Probate administration for the estate valued at over £4000 went to Marjorie Howard Baugh, wife of Arthur William Baugh. Arthur died 1947. His estate, valued at £723, ws administered by his widow, Marjorie Howard Baugh. Clearly the money was from James Gordon Garrick.
I cannot find any other children for Nellie and none at all for Marjorie.
It looks like Garrick might have been married previously and have grown children when he married Nellie. Nellie never remarried (surname is Garrick in Will Calendar) and so far I haven't found another marriage for Marjorie either as she dies 1987 with the surname Baugh. Wonder what happened to her estate? I'd like to see if she had any pictures of the family!
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Thursday, July 16, 2009
Margaret and the third family
So now that I have Anne Clark Morgan all figured out, the next step is to work on Margaret, Charles' third wife. I must admit that finding a marriage record for Charles & Anne Clark makes me feel a whole lot better about his morals. Although, I've always figured he MUST have married her, because she was accepted by the family for the rest of her life, but our family was shipped off to their brother in America. I wonder if Charles Sr. came forth with the money to pay their passage to the United States?
Anyway, about Margaret. Her youngest, Esther was born 1889 according to the 1891 census, where Charles was listed as widower. So she must have died between the birth of Esther and the taking of the 1891 census. Not a big window of time. Searching for a Margaret Taylor death in that window turned up a lot...however I noticed they have now added ages at death and that narrowed down to just a couple. One in Mar 1889 who is 46 and one in Dec 1889 who is 38. Both ages are a little off from the age given in the 1881 census...but I vote for the Mar 1889 one, because I searched for Esther's birth in 1889 and found one in Dec 1888, the only one in West Derby! I suspect Margaret died from complications from Esther's birth not yet knowing the exact dates, I could easily see Esther born in late December and Margaret dying a few days later in early January.
Three possible births for Frederick, I think the one with Frederick is most likely as his full name is given in the 1891 census:
Dec 1881 TAYLOR Fred Herbert Derby 7b 547 [possibly West Derby? but book sequence isn't right]
Mar 1882 Taylor Fred W. Derby 8b 640
Jun 1882 Taylor Frederick Liverpool 8b 161
Margaret is the hardest because the name is so common:
Dec 1884 Taylor Margaret W.Derby 8b 487
Mar 1885 Taylor Margaret Liverpool 8b 108
Mar 1885Taylor Margaret W Derby 8b 378
Jun 1885 Taylor Margaret W. Derby 8b 498
Sep 1885 TAYLOR Margaret Liverpool 8b 21
Dec 1885 Taylor Margaret W. Derby 8b 486
And last, to Nellie. I wasn't seeing anything that looked good for Nel* so I wondered what names Nellie might be a nickname for. I came up with Ellen and found:
Sep 1879 Taylor Ellen Jane W Derby 8b 407
It looks like we've found everybody! Now to start ordering their certificates. Once I've gotten Esther's and Ellen's then I'll use whatever I learn from theirs (Margaret's maiden name!) to request matched searches on Margaret & Frederick.
What a good feeling to have made this progress! But I know we couldn't have done it in previous years, because the information simply wasn't so easily available.
Anyway, about Margaret. Her youngest, Esther was born 1889 according to the 1891 census, where Charles was listed as widower. So she must have died between the birth of Esther and the taking of the 1891 census. Not a big window of time. Searching for a Margaret Taylor death in that window turned up a lot...however I noticed they have now added ages at death and that narrowed down to just a couple. One in Mar 1889 who is 46 and one in Dec 1889 who is 38. Both ages are a little off from the age given in the 1881 census...but I vote for the Mar 1889 one, because I searched for Esther's birth in 1889 and found one in Dec 1888, the only one in West Derby! I suspect Margaret died from complications from Esther's birth not yet knowing the exact dates, I could easily see Esther born in late December and Margaret dying a few days later in early January.
Three possible births for Frederick, I think the one with Frederick is most likely as his full name is given in the 1891 census:
Dec 1881 TAYLOR Fred Herbert Derby 7b 547 [possibly West Derby? but book sequence isn't right]
Mar 1882 Taylor Fred W. Derby 8b 640
Jun 1882 Taylor Frederick Liverpool 8b 161
Margaret is the hardest because the name is so common:
Dec 1884 Taylor Margaret W.Derby 8b 487
Mar 1885 Taylor Margaret Liverpool 8b 108
Mar 1885Taylor Margaret W Derby 8b 378
Jun 1885 Taylor Margaret W. Derby 8b 498
Sep 1885 TAYLOR Margaret Liverpool 8b 21
Dec 1885 Taylor Margaret W. Derby 8b 486
And last, to Nellie. I wasn't seeing anything that looked good for Nel* so I wondered what names Nellie might be a nickname for. I came up with Ellen and found:
Sep 1879 Taylor Ellen Jane W Derby 8b 407
It looks like we've found everybody! Now to start ordering their certificates. Once I've gotten Esther's and Ellen's then I'll use whatever I learn from theirs (Margaret's maiden name!) to request matched searches on Margaret & Frederick.
What a good feeling to have made this progress! But I know we couldn't have done it in previous years, because the information simply wasn't so easily available.
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Taylor? Moore? DeBarcy?
Am I crazy? Every so often I wonder if I've jumped to a conclusion that makes these families tie together. Then I have to go through all of the information to validate my conclusion that they are one and the same. So here goes...
Charles Taylor, Jr. [We'll call him this, for clarity] was born 1868 in Liverpool, England and immigrated to the United States in 1885. Charles, Jr. left documents listing information about his family in England.
Charles Taylor, Sr. was a druggist. He did work at #10 Cleveland Sq. (1861, 1871) That building was originally owned by his father, then passed to his brother, Samuel who died 1875, directing that all his property be sold and the proceeds split between his inheritors. So it isn't surprising that in 1881, Charles Taylor Sr. is a retired druggist. #2 Brook Subery....turns out to be Tuebrook Suburb in Liverpool, but we haven't yet been able to locate a Clifton Villars address.
There is indeed a Mary born to Charles Sr. and a previous wife, a Mary Collis Taylor. (Christening, 1851) The christening record gives Mary Collis Taylor, daughter of Charles Taylor (druggist) & Anne Clarke [surnamed Morgan]. The 1851 census gives the three of them, Charles Taylor, druggist; wife Annie Clerk Taylor, & dau. Mary Collis Taylor. There cannot be a mistake.
After her mother's death Mary Collis lived with Sam Taylor (1861-Mary Collis Taylor, neice) and John Taylor, who was a surgeon (1871-Mary C. Taylor, neice) although he was living on Hope St instead of the Parliament St address that Charles Jr. gives.
A little off on the "Dr." Sam Taylor. He was never listed as a doctor. He was a Paint & Varnish Manufacturer & Land owner (does this refer to the Cleveland Square address that he received as inheritance from his father? Have no record of him living at Figueroa Street, either.
So Mary Collis Taylor clearly ties Charles Sr., John and Samuel together as brothers.
Now as to Charles Sr.'s second family--our family. We could never find them by the surname Taylor. They just didn't show up. It wasn't until my sister found their names on the ship's register that we found the surname of "Moore." When we then looked for them with the surname "Moore" we found everything we expected. Our copy of the 1861 census for #10 Cleveland Sq was a really bad copy. We thought we could read Mary A Moore, but we weren't sure until I recently got a cleaner copy. It was definitely, Charles Taylor, druggist 45y & Mary A Moore, servant 24y, but she was born in Liverpool, not France...hmmm....
1871 William Moore 55y chemist, born Wale, Lancashire; wife, Mary Ann 33y born Liverpool; William 11y scholar born Liverpool; George H. 9y scholar born Liverpool; Annie 6y scholar born Liverpool; Charles 3y born Liverpool
1881 Mary Ann More, 44y widow, Machinist born Liverpool; Charles 14y, scholar born Liverpool; Jane 8y, scholar born Liverpool
1881 Groman family on Great Howard St. Ann Moore 15y, servant, born Liverpool.
Marian (Mary) Taylor, most of the information Charles Jr gave we cannot yet validate. However, the fact that Marian was also known as Mary, validates the information that we have found listing her as Mary Ann Moore.
All of the kids: his numbers don't add up, but of the children we have been able to track down birth records for, he's right on except for one thing--the surname. We have Christening & Birth Registration for William. Christening for Annie. Birth Registration for George. Christening & Birth Registration for Charles. Unfortunately, nothing for Alice Jane (Jennie). All of these records give them the surname of "Moore." All of the places that he records them currently living in were correct prior to 1950 (with the surname of "Taylor" in the USA).
Oddball information is that, William, George & Charles Jr's birth registrations have no father listed. However, William's christening record lists Charles Sr. as a bookkeeper, Annie's christening record lists him, a "victualler" and Charles Jr's christening gives him as a druggist.
A couple of other pieces of information not listed on this document: Marian DeBarcy was 20 years younger than Charles Taylor. This is validated by the 1861, 1871 & 1881 censuses & both Mary Ann Moore's death certificate & Charles Taylor Sr's death certificate.
Mary Ann Moore who died in 31 Dec 1882 is the same Mary Ann Moore we've been tracking. Ages match, she is the "widow of Charles Moore, Druggist" and the informant is A. Moore, daughter, with a different address...this would have to be Annie who was a servant in another household.
Charles Taylor Sr. in 1881 is retired druggist born in Liverpool, with wife, Margaret & daughter Nellie, 1y. 1891 census give Charles Taylor Sr. as retired druggist born in Liverpool widowed with four children; Nellie 11y born Liverpool; Fredrick 8y born Walton on the Hill; Margaret 6y born Walton on the Hill; Esther 2y born Walton on the Hill
Charles Taylor Sr. dies 24 Oct 1895, retired chemist, Informant is N. Taylor, daughter with the same address as Charles. His Letters of Administration state the same death date and address and state that Mary Collis Dickins (there's that Collis middle name again!) wife of Edward Francis Dickins "the natural and lawful daughter, and only next of kin" recieved the entire estate. Okay, so the "only next of kin" is a little off, but it is clearly the same Charles Sr. If Mary Collis Taylor is his daughter from the first marriage. His death certificate informant is Nellie Taylor, daughter from the third marriage. We already know that Mary Collis Taylor is the half sister, Mary that Charles Jr. was mentioning.
Therefore, Charles Taylor Sr. druggist/chemist born 1815 married 1st Anne Clarke, their child: Mary Collis Taylor born 1846 who married 1880 Edward Francis Dickins. Charles Sr. married 2nd Mary Ann Moore (Marian DeBarcy), their children: William born 1860, George born 1862, Annie born 1865, Charles Jr. born 1868, & Alice Jane (Jennie) born 1875. Charles Sr. married 3rd Margaret (possibly Rooney), their children: Nellie born 1880, Fredrick born 1881, Margaret born 1885, & Esther born 1889.
One man, three marriages (relationships?), 10 kids. Taylor & Moore surnames.
I guess I'm not crazy...he was!
Charles Taylor, Jr. [We'll call him this, for clarity] was born 1868 in Liverpool, England and immigrated to the United States in 1885. Charles, Jr. left documents listing information about his family in England.
Charles Taylor, Sr. was a druggist. He did work at #10 Cleveland Sq. (1861, 1871) That building was originally owned by his father, then passed to his brother, Samuel who died 1875, directing that all his property be sold and the proceeds split between his inheritors. So it isn't surprising that in 1881, Charles Taylor Sr. is a retired druggist. #2 Brook Subery....turns out to be Tuebrook Suburb in Liverpool, but we haven't yet been able to locate a Clifton Villars address.
There is indeed a Mary born to Charles Sr. and a previous wife, a Mary Collis Taylor. (Christening, 1851) The christening record gives Mary Collis Taylor, daughter of Charles Taylor (druggist) & Anne Clarke [surnamed Morgan]. The 1851 census gives the three of them, Charles Taylor, druggist; wife Annie Clerk Taylor, & dau. Mary Collis Taylor. There cannot be a mistake.
After her mother's death Mary Collis lived with Sam Taylor (1861-Mary Collis Taylor, neice) and John Taylor, who was a surgeon (1871-Mary C. Taylor, neice) although he was living on Hope St instead of the Parliament St address that Charles Jr. gives.
A little off on the "Dr." Sam Taylor. He was never listed as a doctor. He was a Paint & Varnish Manufacturer & Land owner (does this refer to the Cleveland Square address that he received as inheritance from his father? Have no record of him living at Figueroa Street, either.
So Mary Collis Taylor clearly ties Charles Sr., John and Samuel together as brothers.
Now as to Charles Sr.'s second family--our family. We could never find them by the surname Taylor. They just didn't show up. It wasn't until my sister found their names on the ship's register that we found the surname of "Moore." When we then looked for them with the surname "Moore" we found everything we expected. Our copy of the 1861 census for #10 Cleveland Sq was a really bad copy. We thought we could read Mary A Moore, but we weren't sure until I recently got a cleaner copy. It was definitely, Charles Taylor, druggist 45y & Mary A Moore, servant 24y, but she was born in Liverpool, not France...hmmm....
1871 William Moore 55y chemist, born Wale, Lancashire; wife, Mary Ann 33y born Liverpool; William 11y scholar born Liverpool; George H. 9y scholar born Liverpool; Annie 6y scholar born Liverpool; Charles 3y born Liverpool
1881 Mary Ann More, 44y widow, Machinist born Liverpool; Charles 14y, scholar born Liverpool; Jane 8y, scholar born Liverpool
1881 Groman family on Great Howard St. Ann Moore 15y, servant, born Liverpool.
Marian (Mary) Taylor, most of the information Charles Jr gave we cannot yet validate. However, the fact that Marian was also known as Mary, validates the information that we have found listing her as Mary Ann Moore.
All of the kids: his numbers don't add up, but of the children we have been able to track down birth records for, he's right on except for one thing--the surname. We have Christening & Birth Registration for William. Christening for Annie. Birth Registration for George. Christening & Birth Registration for Charles. Unfortunately, nothing for Alice Jane (Jennie). All of these records give them the surname of "Moore." All of the places that he records them currently living in were correct prior to 1950 (with the surname of "Taylor" in the USA).
Oddball information is that, William, George & Charles Jr's birth registrations have no father listed. However, William's christening record lists Charles Sr. as a bookkeeper, Annie's christening record lists him, a "victualler" and Charles Jr's christening gives him as a druggist.
A couple of other pieces of information not listed on this document: Marian DeBarcy was 20 years younger than Charles Taylor. This is validated by the 1861, 1871 & 1881 censuses & both Mary Ann Moore's death certificate & Charles Taylor Sr's death certificate.
Mary Ann Moore who died in 31 Dec 1882 is the same Mary Ann Moore we've been tracking. Ages match, she is the "widow of Charles Moore, Druggist" and the informant is A. Moore, daughter, with a different address...this would have to be Annie who was a servant in another household.
Charles Taylor Sr. in 1881 is retired druggist born in Liverpool, with wife, Margaret & daughter Nellie, 1y. 1891 census give Charles Taylor Sr. as retired druggist born in Liverpool widowed with four children; Nellie 11y born Liverpool; Fredrick 8y born Walton on the Hill; Margaret 6y born Walton on the Hill; Esther 2y born Walton on the Hill
Charles Taylor Sr. dies 24 Oct 1895, retired chemist, Informant is N. Taylor, daughter with the same address as Charles. His Letters of Administration state the same death date and address and state that Mary Collis Dickins (there's that Collis middle name again!) wife of Edward Francis Dickins "the natural and lawful daughter, and only next of kin" recieved the entire estate. Okay, so the "only next of kin" is a little off, but it is clearly the same Charles Sr. If Mary Collis Taylor is his daughter from the first marriage. His death certificate informant is Nellie Taylor, daughter from the third marriage. We already know that Mary Collis Taylor is the half sister, Mary that Charles Jr. was mentioning.
Therefore, Charles Taylor Sr. druggist/chemist born 1815 married 1st Anne Clarke, their child: Mary Collis Taylor born 1846 who married 1880 Edward Francis Dickins. Charles Sr. married 2nd Mary Ann Moore (Marian DeBarcy), their children: William born 1860, George born 1862, Annie born 1865, Charles Jr. born 1868, & Alice Jane (Jennie) born 1875. Charles Sr. married 3rd Margaret (possibly Rooney), their children: Nellie born 1880, Fredrick born 1881, Margaret born 1885, & Esther born 1889.
One man, three marriages (relationships?), 10 kids. Taylor & Moore surnames.
I guess I'm not crazy...he was!
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